Tada, Thank you so much for taking the time to help. The floors that we have currently made are pretty much all 8’long stock and we make the blanks oversize through the rip so we can keep them extra straight out of the moulder. I had a hard time deciding on a colour, we wanted to go with Gris beige from Monocoat. It’s always hard to give advice over the computer without seeing your home in person and your wall and furnishing colors as well as your decorating tastes. This house with the #2 I am worried will be too dark and I would rather have it lighter anyhow, because the Jacobean showed more dirt and scratches. To get the deeper darker color you’re after you will need to water pop your floor. If your floor guy was great and you’re happy with his work do him a huge favour and write a nice review on Google for him. Come back and let us know how they turned out. Sorry for the delay in replying… it’s been a very busy week here. He didn’t sand enough. I recently found your site and have been reading along. It’s a very large room and the ceiling is done with the same wood that is why we thought of staining for some contrast. These extreme colors tend to go out of style quickly though, the two colors above won’t. But if you’d like to change the color of your hardwood floors and have a surface finish applied, then they will need to be stained or have a pre-treatment done to them. The floor plan is exactly the same with the rooms ranging from 10×12 to 14×16 – same small windows. Are the floors quite old? We are currently planning to stain our oak hardwood floors. Just to be clear – when we talk about “staining” we are talking about a separate step done to color your wood floors. I hope this new guy can get you sorted out Brian. The flooring is white oak and I was looking to go with a dark stain? Burgundy Trace Hand-Rubbed Stain. I like more of a brown but not too red or orange… thank you. We have been unable to achieve this (hovers around 42-43%). Try a small amount first and make sure you record how much you used of each. I love the 45 degree angle and the kitchen. We are looking to stain our red oak floors a dark grey. Sorry to hear of your troubles. I appreciate your response. Jerry Richards Mark Twain Forest Products Centerville, MO. Thanks. Thanks, http://www.houzz.com/photos/205683/Gallery-Loft-modern-kitchen-los-angeles http://www.houzz.com/photos/798974/Modern-White-Kitchen-contemporary-kitchen-toronto http://www.houzz.com/photos/7923759/Decorative-plaster-work-has-been-retained-contemporary-kitchen-other-metro. There are way to many variables that come in to play, some that come to mind are: – Was the Brazilian Cherry water-popped first before the walnut stain was applied? We went with 50/50 Jacobean and Dark Walnut and love it! Now we have two different scenerios. Hope you find what you’re looking for. An “almost mahogany” color is a pretty wide range of shades unfortunately. I wanted a medium brown stain without red or orange. It looks good and I think the reverse would look fine as well. I definitely want to warm up the floor. Yes I would recommend a matte finish with a dog as it won’t show scratches in the finish as much. Any input you might have would be very, very appreciated! Many years before that it was bleached white floors. I’m pretty sure it was Duraseal. As I’ve gotten a bit carried away with this post, I’ll make that the subject of my next blog post (you can read it here). I found some beautiful images of Golden Pecan floors online. We use DuraSeal stains. Also wondering if there is much difference between Bona Jacobean and DuraSeal? Lighter floors are considerably easier to maintain and keep looking clean. If you have a certain taste in furniture or a design style you’re going for, it will be a big help to decide on a wood floor stain color. Dark Gray. Plus it’s your house and you can do what you like :). is one more red or yellow than the other? Only 30 minutes drying time is needed before a lacquer sealer coat can be sprayed. Hopefully this time you will get them the perfect color :). I like your fantastic web site. My house is a mix of oaks and cherries and I don’t want the floor to try to match anything. Many thanks for your blog which I have found really useful. View Product Page. The third floor photo in the post (the one with the fireplace) is a red oak floor and you can still see the natural color variation with the wood there. Do you like the light, clean open look of a lighter colored modern grey shade…, Or do you fancy the deep, elegant and bold look of dark black floors…, Maybe your eye is drawn to the brown shades in between these two palates…. I have just had my cypress pine floors sanded and stained walnut by a professional company and there are marks along the edge of the boards where the stain has not fixed, leaving very light marks. We have other red oak in the room, and we like to keep everything mostly the same color. I’m going for a transitional rather than traditional look and was going to use Jacobean thinking it was a medium stain but it looks a bit dark and flat in my rooms. I like the idea of the same coloured border in the living room to tie in the stairs, especially if it has a built in border already. I saw that people asked what the stains were in the first and third photos of your article but nobody has asked about the second photo. Plus original 1888 douglas fir floors – wow! The dining room has red oak floor with golden oak stain and all the baseboards, window trim and casing are also stained with golden oak stain. what do you suggest. I would get a few red colors and a few of the browns and maybe fruitwood and experiment with mixing them together (the same brand) at different percentages to see what you like. Is chestnut too close? It was only stained in the last year but an accident on the floor (an acetone spill) has prompted us to reconsider the colour which we have discovered is very high maintenance. They may be able to be fixed, or worse case, just replaced. My husband doesn’t want red and my kitchen cabinets are also white oak. Many people think ‘staining’ means applying the top coats of oil or polyurethane. Pigmented Wiping Stains are easier to control because there's less lapping. There are new finish systems available now, like Pallmann Pall-X Gold or Loba Invisible (used on the floor above), that don’t turn oak flooring that old orangy-yellow color that people associate with their grandparent’s floors. I also don’t want to see so much red or gold like you see in Early American. Should I do ebony, jacobeen, antique walnut, ebony with some red mahogany? Will it look okay if we go with a very dark floor stain? Hi Tadas, I own a sawmill, dry kiln, planer, etc.. Have you looked at Duraseal Coffee Brown color? You should be able to pretty quickly see what you like and even more importantly what shades you don’t like with the big samples they have on display. You really shouldn’t have a problem if its only in a smaller area. Was considering an ebony, Jacobean or dark oak but would value your thoughts as to what would give a wow factor…. thanks. Surprising, I haven’t come up with any reference to this problem online. That might explain the raised boards. I can’t really tell you what colors you would need without seeing the actual board you want to match in person and doing some experiments on sample boards. You definitely need to sand more wood off the floors in these cases though. How frustrating! These finishes accentuate the character of the wood, so if you have a lot of variation then it will be hard to mask that with a light color unfortunately. To be clear, I did not apply stain. Plus what’s in now could be “out of style” soon according to the design gurus. I hope your project goes well for you when you decide to start. A shade darker would look perfectly fine. While dark shades like True Black and Ebony will make a grand statement in a home and show off furniture more. We have laid 5″ white oak with character everywhere and are trying to decide on a Minwax stain. I guess it depends on your taste and furnishings. If it was a recoat it sounds like you have a contamination issue. It was thought to add gray to the color? If you don’t use a finish with a ultraviolet inhibitor, then yes the floors will change color (darker) with sunlight. Also look at Jacobean for a mid-dark non-red stain color. Early American. ps… I’m sorry I misspelled you name above. A lot will depend on if the floor is water popped, the grain of the wood, it’s age and the brand used. One of the best places to see different flooring styles and colors is in that stack of home decoration and renovation magazines you have piled up in a corner somewhere. We don’t want to add another coat of stain because then the floor will go too dark. We can’t wait to hear from you. If I get up the nerve to go darker, is there a stain that blends well with light and medium oak as well as cherry? As you can see, the choice you have in stain colors for your hardwood floor is almost unlimited. The first two would have a matte finish. Since your floors are so old and you may not be able to sand them again, I would also suggest looking at a hardwax oil like Rubio Monocoat. They’re sanding today and we have to choose the color by tomorrow! They are visible in high and low humidity. Hi Rivki, I would definitely use something better for your floors. We want to keep that nice medium cocoa brown of walnut and see the lovely grain lines but are stuck on how. Warm Regards, Zo-An. The first coat was so pretty. My question is that I just had red oak flooring put down in my master bedroom and upstairs hallway. It has natural oak flooring with that typical yellowish hue. Wondering if 25% Sedona red mixed with the Early American would give the brown a hint of red. Very disappointed in that. And yes there is a difference between the two different stain manufacturers. We always do this hand have never had an issue with white lines. I am one of those people who only want to do that if I can make a super product. Again, this will depend on the style you want to have in your home. Any suggestions? Wall color will be light tone (cream or very light coffee). We have red oak in our home and are in the process of refinishing them. Thank you. Since the contractor was not happy with the sanding job, we had the floor resanded and are starting over. How would you darken it up a bit? x 2-3/4 in. At that point the entire house will be wood flooring. (total agreement, the Jacobean really fell short on my floors – maybe it’s better on white oak) You want something that will ground your room/s styling and not clash with your décor. 7. Jacobean or Walnut would also be a good choice if you want something a little more contrasting and dark but not completely different. As always to lots of testing on sample boards first before going ahead with the whole floor. The color palette in the blog post is just a small sampling of our colors, we have many more and all of them can be mixed and blended to get any custom shade you want. It’s not always easy to get the perfect color is it. We are sanding and staining our red oak floors in several weeks. Yes you’re going to have a hard time getting a color that “doesn’t hide all the grain & interesting burls… but that also brings a little uniformity to the sometimes wild tonal variation between all the planks – without looking like we just painted the floors.”. Hi, we are in the process of laying white oak in our home and I am wanting a medium brown color (want a warm feeling). Thanks again for helping out from so far away. Then it was finished with an oil based polyurethane. We would like the hard wood floors to brighten our living area and help make the room feel larger. Yes it will be a bit of a challenge trying to tie in all that different wood together. 2) Keep the floors natural or use a light colored stain (Golden Oak perhaps if your taste is country) and enjoy the difference in the woods. Is the peeling happening after a recoat or after the floors were stained? I had decided on Rubio as a finish but we cannot seem to find a color that’s “right” for the handscraped walnut floors we are getting. These are much trickier to apply evenly though and are not really DIY friendly. Also if we make some SYP plank floors, in 12′-16′ lengths (so there is no need to end match) do you think that this would be marketable (same price range). You can still get lower VOC oil modified finishes though that will give that nice deep amber look. For our new house, we were thinking of putting Red Chestnut upstairs in all four bedrooms, the hallway, and on the stairs down to the main level. DURA SEAL Quick Coat Penetrating Finish English Chestnut 133. You can read about that process here: https://napervillehardwood.com/blog/what-is-water-popping/ Apply stain one line at the time and start wiping after 5-7 minutes if using quick dry stain and 10-12 min if using regular dry stain. But it’s always best to do a sample patch on the floor in an out of the way spot first if you’re concerned about the color. To get the deeper darker color you’re after you will need to water pop your floor. The floors are varying shades of orange, a typical aged Brazilian cherry floor. Having floors stained 75% dark walnut and 25% english chestnut. Any suggestions on what would be a good stain to try and mix with it!? No poly applied yet…! 2) The other cause can be from using 2 component finishes in multiple coats over a floor vs using a sealer and the 2 component finish for top coats. As far as humidity level, 43% is great. These will blend the floors together very well. Solid white oak construction Prefinished English Chestnut stain color and clear coated please note that stain colors will vary based on the species Adds an elegant dimension to the walls and floor of your home Installs easily with finish or brad nails They said that’s the darkest they could go is there anyway you could tell me how to get them as dark as your pic and what product to have them use? Doing it the first way makes the finish too rigid, and when the floors move (as they naturally will), they are not flexible enough and so the finish stretches and stresses in those spots, causing white lines. The multiple coats of clear finish gets applied on top of the stain. Seems like the good brands of stain do not carry it. None of which I am excited about but selected golden pecan becAuse it seems the safest. Hope that helps. Coffee Brown. system should you choose for your floors? Treating raw wood with conditioner helps prevent streaks and blotches by evening out the absorption of oil-based stains. I have 9 year old Brazilian cherry floors that were originally left untainted and sealed with a polyurethane satin finish. What color should i stain my floors? Personally I like a floor be a bit darker for a “modern” look than natural, but I understand where you’re coming from with your dog (although you can get extremely durable finishes nowadays). Is this because we hand buffed the samples vs using a machine (as we will for the actual floors)? Will the floor guy need to replace the wood planks in these areas? To be honest, it will most likely not be dark enough still if you try this. We have a traditional cherry built in wall unit with an almost mahogany colored stain. As far as dust, yes the darker floors will show it more, but that’s a small price to pay for having awesome looking floors we think. The other ways you can change up the color of your floor is to use a colored hardwax oil like Rubio Monocoat or Pallmann Magic Oil, or use a dye. Chestnut. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. They use bona colors. Distinctive wavy grains define this wood type. I have a small dog whos nails leave tiny scratches so I need a good finish. You helped to calm me down. Oak floors can look great left their natural color as you can see in this photo…. It is highly helpful for me. My furniture is all Dark Cherry wood. Great post. Good luck Teresa, let us know how it turns out. https://ap.rdcpix.com/279006404/697579fce091f1f609ef6fe6978ecf06l-m11r.jpg. Any suggestions? Yes it does have orange/red undertones. Maybe check out the colors Provincial, Special Walnut or Early American by MinWax and see if they suit your style. Sorry you have to deal with this, I know it can be frustrating when you invest a lot of money and things don’t turn out exactly how you want them to. 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